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My Dad take took my car for a spin... |
 Apr 1 2008, 09:04 PM
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He said because I'd put him on my insurance as an additional driver the least I could do was let him drive the car. So tonight was clear and the roads were quiet so he took it for a spin. My dad is about 60 and has had his license since 17 so I also wanted him to just check the car over etc make sure it was all ok. He's used to speed and fast cars as his weekend car is a fully tuned Jaguar XKR, so I thought he could handle my ST
 Anyway he's been going on at me since I got it to take it easy for at least the first 500-1000 miles, and so I have been, not over-revving or going too fast. He jumps and in straight away he starts pushing it way up through the revs and taking corners really fast. His excuse- 'The car felt like it was begging to be driven and it handled and ran really well.' That's all well and good but I want to be driving it like that and I know I shouldn't for a while longer until it's all settled in. Right now I feel like he has raped my precious car and I didn't even get to take it's high-rev virginity  One thing I noticed is that he was double de-clutching. Is this a thing of the past or do people still do this (for track days etc). I know you used to do it on old cars but hadn't seen anyone do it recently! I am getting my Eibachs fitted tomorrow morning by the way so some before and after photos will be coming up within the next 24 hours. James -------------------- Team Goose Nex
K&N 57i, Mongoose flexi, Eibach -35mm, E-tech strut brace, Magnex Cat-back |
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Apr 1 2008, 09:25 PM
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by double clutching i'm assuming you mean taking it out of gear revving and then back in gear, hence clutch in twice for a gear change, this is what my dad did in mine, keeps the engine in optimum torque band as the revs are always high. i've been trying to do it since, its so hard lol
apparently its great when you go down the gears --------------------  |
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Apr 1 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(mikester @ Apr 1 2008, 10:25 PM)  by double clutching i'm assuming you mean taking it out of gear revving and then back in gear, hence clutch in twice for a gear change, this is what my dad did in mine, keeps the engine in optimum torque band as the revs are always high. i've been trying to do it since, its so hard lol apparently its great when you go down the gears ah so it is a dad thing yeah my dad tried to show me how to do it...no luck so far!
-------------------- Team Goose Nex
K&N 57i, Mongoose flexi, Eibach -35mm, E-tech strut brace, Magnex Cat-back |
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Apr 1 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(frenchi @ Apr 1 2008, 10:29 PM) QUOTE(mikester @ Apr 1 2008, 10:25 PM) by double clutching i'm assuming you mean taking it out of gear revving and then back in gear, hence clutch in twice for a gear change, this is what my dad did in mine, keeps the engine in optimum torque band as the revs are always high. i've been trying to do it since, its so hard lol apparently its great when you go down the gears ah so it is a dad thing yeah my dad tried to show me how to do it...no luck so far!yup, he also said he learnt it out of 'neccesity' as he's driven shite cars in the past and they needed it. i nearly killed myself doing it earlier, just can't do it quick enough. -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2008, 09:39 PM
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It was a neccesity on a lot of old car's or the syncro-mesh would'nt engage don't know many people that do it now i've been taught to do it but don't use it in the st unless i'm really giving it some and then only on downshifts be carefull though cos if you use this method then hit the wrong gear at high rev's you'll fook your engine
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Apr 1 2008, 09:43 PM
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i'll just practice on the way up thru the gears but do it slowly. how effective do you find it?
it felt like there was no lull when changing gear, like the power was always there. -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2008, 09:51 PM
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mate it's very effective you can gain a hell of a lot of extra acceleration on a straight drag and arond a track.
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Apr 1 2008, 10:24 PM
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I do it on the way down the box on my motorbike but not in the
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Apr 1 2008, 10:30 PM
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Hmm this is all interesting. I think I might get my Dad to give me a few lessons doing it, he seemed to be pretty good at it:-)
-------------------- Team Goose Nex
K&N 57i, Mongoose flexi, Eibach -35mm, E-tech strut brace, Magnex Cat-back |
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Apr 1 2008, 10:41 PM
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Heel & Toe?
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Apr 1 2008, 10:42 PM
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its easy we do it in the old tractors and machines it can also smoothen out wen u drop down gears but if u get it wrong its not very good ull soon pick it up
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Apr 1 2008, 10:44 PM
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No need to double de-clutch at all anymore, that's why we have synchomesh gearboxes.
What is a vital skill to learn for performance driving is 'heel and toe' downshifting which is a way to match engine speeds when coming down through the box before a corner, whilst braking at the same time. A little view of my video from silverstone should help you understand. Most modern car's pedal arrangements allow my method, which is more of a 'side of foot -and toe' method, but you get the idea. Some cars will require use of the heel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIP2sXVACbY -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2008, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(Arun @ Apr 1 2008, 11:44 PM) No need to double de-clutch at all anymore, that's why we have synchomesh gearboxes. What is a vital skill to learn for performance driving is 'heel and toe' downshifting which is a way to match engine speeds when coming down through the box before a corner, whilst braking at the same time. A little view of my video from silverstone should help you understand. Most modern car's pedal arrangements allow my method, which is more of a 'side of foot -and toe' method, but you get the idea. Some cars will require use of the heel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIP2sXVACbY I see what you mean from your video that is pretty useful. I will read up about it. Not planning on doing a track day just yet but I'd like to learn these things for the future. Cheers Arun! -------------------- Team Goose Nex
K&N 57i, Mongoose flexi, Eibach -35mm, E-tech strut brace, Magnex Cat-back |
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Apr 1 2008, 11:09 PM
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Heel an Toe all the way, when you get good at it its just so smooth its unreal, you get no clutch de-acceleration (engine breaking) combine Heel and Toe with left foot breaking and you can make cars perform like you wouldn't believe.
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Apr 1 2008, 11:36 PM
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