Iron fallout remover on Mk8.5 matt wheels

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Waxil

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

Good Morning.
I've recently acquired an ST3 MK8.5 which has these wheels on it;

I washed it for the first time at the weekend, so I snowfoamed, then sprayed the wheels with Trolls Breath iron out on the alloys.
I rinsed it off about 5 minutes later then continued with a contact wash, dry & quick detail.
When I came to dry off the wheels I noticed that one of them appears to have some residue on the surface. I tried to scrub it off with the back of a wash mitt (the bug remover side) but it seems to be ingrained onto the wheel.

I'm worrying now that these matt finish wheels dont like the trolls breath. Although it only seems to have happened to one of them. I didnt notice it before but I can't be sure it wasnt already there when we bought the car last week.

I'll try and get some pics of the damage when the wife gets home from work in it, but wanted to post in case anyone had seen the same.

TIA

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Tsotsi8787

· #2 · 15 d ago

Waxil said:
Good Morning.
I've recently acquired an ST3 MK8.5 which has these wheels on it;
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I washed it for the first time at the weekend, so I snowfoamed, then sprayed the wheels with Trolls Breath iron out on the alloys.
I rinsed it off about 5 minutes later then continued with a contact wash, dry & quick detail.
When I came to dry off the wheels I noticed that one of them appears to have some residue on the surface. I tried to scrub it off with the back of a wash mitt (the bug remover side) but it seems to be ingrained onto the wheel.

I'm worrying now that these matt finish wheels dont like the trolls breath. Although it only seems to have happened to one of them. I didnt notice it before but I can't be sure it wasnt already there when we bought the car last week.

I'll try and get some pics of the damage when the wife gets home from work in it, but wanted to post in case anyone had seen the same.

TIA

Trolls Breath is quite weak compared to the likes of Bilt Hambers AutoWheel, so I wouldn't imagine it would of caused any damage. The worst you can do is let it dry, but even then you can reactivate it by wetting or reapplying. I would hazard a guess and say its tar. Get some tar remover and see if that shifts it.

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Jassyo06

· #3 · 15 d ago

When it comes to using Wheel cleaners l always find it's better to dilute them with water ie 50/50 don't let it dwell more than a couple of minutes then apply snow foam over the top then use a soft brush the snow foam will add some lubrication whilst brushing even better clean one wheel at a time
Ps if fall out remover has dried up on the alloy just use the wheel cleaner again to remove the stain

TRiBaL

· #4 · 15 d ago

I use valet pro bilberry wheel cleaner, never had a problem but as others said it may be tar or something that pre-existed upon delivery.

LloydST

· #5 · 14 d ago

I had matt black wheels on my Mk3 Focus RS and they held marks - were awful as I'm a bit OCD. I couldn't solve it, drove me mad - so I ended up going gloss black and was so much better!

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MarkP80

· #6 · 14 d ago

As @Tsotsi8787 mentions, I would also agree that bilt hamber auto wheel is excellent stuff so my vote also for giving that a go to see if that shifts it. (I use it occasionally as needed as I find it quite expensive for regular use).
I have the same wheels and gave mine a coating of the GTechnic C5 wheel protector and I have to say, it does seem to do a great job of making the wheels v easy to clean. So when you do get them clean, you might consider applying that.

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Jassyo06

· #7 · 13 d ago

Bilt hamber Auto wheels for use on a weekly bases is best diluted 50/50 with water, so you'll get 2 litres from a 1 litre bottle then it's not so expensive to buy

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Batdog

· #8 · 13 d ago

Only ever wash when wheels and brakes are stone cold as the paint will be at its hardest and least vulnerable. And clean them every few days, even if you don’t do the rest of the car just do the wheels and callipers, stops stubborn buildup

more treat with fallout, then as soon as it starts to change colour hit it with snow foam to keep it damp, couple of mins later hit it with a bit more foam and a wheel brush while still foamy

key is to keep it wet and slippy.

Dragunov

· #9 · 13 d ago

I use the Meguiars and no problems on my ST-3 rims

MarkP80

· #10 · 13 d ago

Jassyo06 said:
Bilt hamber Auto wheels for use on a weekly bases is best diluted 50/50 with water, so you'll get 2 litres from a 1 litre bottle then it's not so expensive to buy

I'd never thought to do that, I always assumed it was to be used neat 👍

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Darran

· #11 · 13 d ago

Batdog said:
And clean them every few days, even if you don’t do the rest of the car just do the wheels and callipers, stops stubborn buildup

Clean wheels every few days? lol

If you're so anal about your wheels next time you give them a deep decon and clean you should give them a couple of coats of a ceramic coating, I apply Gtechniq C5 maybe once every 18 months or so, no need for iron fallout removers on maintenance washers, pressure wash and your general car shampoo with a mitt is all you need.

MarkP80

· #12 · 13 d ago

Darran said:
I apply Gtechniq C5 maybe once every 18 months or so, no need for iron fallout removers on maintenance washers, pressure wash and your general car shampoo with a mitt is all you need.

Plus 1 for C5 Darran - see post #6

Tsotsi8787

· #13 · 13 d ago

I wish I had the time to do a decon' wash every few days.

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Jassyo06

· #14 · 11 d ago

Tsotsi8787 said:
I wish I had the time to do a decon' wash every few days.

Same here I've ceramic coated my previous cars normally use Gyeon Syncro,I've machine polished the front of the car....easy part to do...But finding the time and energy/motivation to do the rest is difficult. I've a bottle of gyeon pure that I've never used "one coat" ceramic l may do parts of the car in stages
I find using gyeon wet coat twice a month on the car/alloys gives great results can't be ***** taking alloys off to ceramic coat them

Tsotsi8787

· #15 · 10 d ago

Jassyo06 said:
Same here I've ceramic coated my previous cars normally use Gyeon Syncro,I've machine polished the front of the car....easy part to do...But finding the time and energy/motivation to do the rest is difficult. I've a bottle of gyeon pure that I've never used "one coat" ceramic l may do parts of the car in stages
I find using gyeon wet coat twice a month on the car/alloys gives great results can't be * taking alloys off to ceramic coat them

What polisher do you use? I can't decide between the das6 v2 or the Das6 Pro. I'm thinking the cheaper v2, due to the fact I won't be using it much, and that it is more suited to beginners.

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Jassyo06

· #16 · 10 d ago

Tsotsi8787 said:
What polisher do you use? I can't decide between the das6 v2 or the Das6 Pro. I'm thinking the cheaper v2, due to the fact I won't be using it much, and that it is more suited to beginners.

A Das6 pro will do fine but don't go for the 6 inch backing plate,5 inch_125mm plate as the larger machines are cumbersome to use on even large cars never mind a Fiesta
I use Flex Da machine polishers with a 125 mm plate and a smaller flex Da which uses 80 mm pads. l find the smaller machines do a better job on a car the size of a Fiesta as they won't stall on the creases and better for polishing the smaller areas likes of the tailgate, actually they're ideal for the fiesta so I'd recommend a smaller machine

MarkP80

· #17 · 9 d ago

Tsotsi8787 said:
What polisher do you use?

Das6 Pro for me as well, 125mm backing plate

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Waxil

Discussion Starter · #18 · 9 d ago

Follow up. I have given the car and wheels a really good going over today with wheel wash, tar remover and a soft brush to agitate and I still cant get the residue off. I'm not sure if it's a repair or a stain. Its in a number of places but only on 1 wheel.
I've tried to capture some photos, which I'll post below, but it was quite hard to actually get the issue to show up in a pic...

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Gedi

· #19 · 9 d ago

is it really residue , or is under the paint?

Waxil

Discussion Starter · #20 · 8 d ago

Gedi said:
is it really residue , or is under the paint?

Its possible. I've tried cleaning it off but seems to make no difference. Not sure what to do with it now

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