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Are high power mods safe

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
There are very high power mods for the st180. Some with more than 400bhp. How can this be safe on a 1.6 engine. Are these engines reliable for long periods with that much power?
Is the gearbox reliable at those power levels. I have a mk6 and the gearbox on the mk6 is supposed to be **** with high power mods. Touch wood mine is still going at 105k but heard a lot of bad things about the ib5 box. Has Ford got their **** together and made a strong box on the mk7 st?
 
#5 ·
Higher power mods should be relative to the drivers actual skills........NOT their perceived skills
Ha! Amen to that, which is why I would never feel it necessary to uprate the power on mine. 200bph is more than enough for me.

Another general consideration is that to my old fashioned outlook getting those sort of numbers from a 1.5 three pot is practically witchcraft already. Consequently i'd feel I was kinda towel flicking the gods of fate in the love spuds by trying to squeeze even more out of it.

But that's just me. The more technically confident, both in terms of driving and spannering?, and certainly for those doing serious track activity? ...yeah, why not.

As you say though, in all cases, in all cars, the highest risk of a failure is the driver.
 
#7 · (Edited by Moderator)
Ha! Amen to that, which is why I would never feel it necessary to uprate the power on mine. 200bph is more than enough for me.

Another general consideration is that to my old fashioned outlook getting those sort of numbers from a 1.5 three pot is practically witchcraft already. Consequently i'd feel I was kinda towel flicking the gods of fate in the love spuds by trying to squeeze even more out of it.

But that's just me. The more technically confident, both in terms of driving and spannering?, and certainly for those doing serious track activity? ...yeah, why not.

As you say though, in all cases, in all cars, the highest risk of a failure is the driver.
One of the biggest reasons a lot of people map their cars is to remove the artificial torque caps applied to 1st, 2nd and 3rd. These were put in place by Ford to prevent excessive traction loss in lower gears and thus higher consumable usage (e.g. tyres).

If we are looking at the car in terms of rewarding driver skill, then one could say the ability to manage and put down power in lower gears without artificial limits makes a mapped car more suitable.