They're all as bad as each other.

 

Since when did this place become Facebook?!

 

Refusing to vote this time - fed up with all of them.

 

Refusing to vote this time - fed up with all of them.

Cue all the "You can't moan about what happens then"..."People died for the vote"..."Your vote could change things" comments :lol:

 

Cue all the "You can't moan about what happens then"..."People died for the vote"..."Your vote could change things" comments :lol:

Hahaha yeh cus my one single vote from a Scotsman is gonna make any difference. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what people of Scotland vote the English vote is more. I'd rather save the 10minute drive to the polling station and do something else with my time

 

Refusing to vote this time - fed up with all of them.

i believe you can vote to veto or abstain or something, basically you choose to not select anyone, you say it doesn't matter but 34% of capable voters didn't vote last time.

 

i believe you can vote to veto or abstain or something, basically you choose to not select anyone, you say it doesn't matter but 34% of capable voters didn't vote last time.

Yeh i guess there is that but that again seems like to much effort for my liking, given up hope with this country.

 

Hahaha yeh cus my one single vote from a Scotsman is gonna make any difference. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what people of Scotland vote the English vote is more.

You aren't the only ones feeling like this, we're pretty frustrated with the system too and don't feel they're being listened too regardless. In my constituency I doubt my vote will make an impact either.

When the Scottish referendum was taking place, I thought a better referendum would be the UK deciding it wanted independence from 10 Downing Street and associated buildings.

Anyway, sorry getting off topic. Personally I think we need a decent run of the left wing. Even the last labour government in '97 was essentially a right wing party in labours clothing.

 

i believe you can vote to veto or abstain or something, basically you choose to not select anyone, you say it doesn't matter but 34% of capable voters didn't vote last time.

Those 34% if they had gone to vote, would have just abstained/spoiled the paper though because they didn't vote for a reason...they don't believe or trust any of them.

 

Those 34% if they had gone to vote, would have just abstained/spoiled the paper though because they didn't vote for a reason...they don't believe or trust any of them.

agreed people shouldn't be lazy in their choices. know what your voting for and if you still cant decide, vote neutral. I've voted for labor before, conservative in the last election and now im swaying towards labor this time. i just cant see how on earth labor is expecting to pay for everything they're promising. i would love to recover the rail, save the NHS increase wages but if the money isn't there.

 

agreed people shouldn't be lazy in their choices. know what your voting for and if you still cant decide, vote neutral. I've voted for labor before, conservative in the last election and now im swaying towards labor this time. i just cant see how on earth labor is expecting to pay for everything they're promising. i would love to recover the rail, save the NHS increase wages but if the money isn't there.

Trouble is, a lot of people out there don't have a clue what the parties stand for...what left means...what right means...and therefore have no idea how to vote neutrally or 'tactically' as some people say.

Voting 'tactically' to me just seems stupid, more so than not voting, because what you are doing is giving a vote to a party you don't actually believe in/want in power...but just to not vote for another party that you particularly don't like.

That's like going into a shop and buying a pair of jeans you don't like instead of the ones you really don't like, instead of just walking out of the shop!

Until the likes of politics becomes staple in the education process, this will continue... but instead things like photosynthesis and art are deemed more important in education.

 

fully agree Alec, its only recently in the past few years I've started paying an interest, we wasn't taught sod all at school about it.

 

i would love to recover the rail, save the NHS increase wages but if the money isn't there.

I believe the money is there, it simply needs to be used more efficiently.

The amount of money this government pulls in is massive, they have taxes on taxes all coming from us. It's our money they spend frivolously as if it's a bottomless well of cash. That's why people should try and use their vote if they can. You're giving a massive amount of money to these people and you should have a say in what they spend it on.

We need to pull the emphasis back into getting the country on it's feet in terms of our services, but too many politicians are feathering their own nests and wasting cash left right and centre.

 

the first thing id do is scrap expenses. everyone else has to pay there way, why shouldn't they? my expenses come from a company account, not other peoples pockets. and they certainly aren't £200,000 a year and my pay isn't £75,000 a year

 

the first thing id do is scrap expenses. everyone else has to pay there way, why shouldn't they? my expenses come from a company account, not other peoples pockets. and they certainly aren't £200,000 a year and my pay isn't £75,000 a year

Trouble is, the way it's set up it works the same for them as it does you...only your 'expenses' are paid for out of the companies money from profits made from customers...whereas politicians etc it is tax money (i.e. we're the customers paying for it).

I don't mind expenses being paid, it's the amount and what for that needs to be assessed and reigned in.

I would probably get the sack if I came back to the office and handed over a claim for a £1000 a night hotel, a £400 meal and a load of champagne on top.

 

Proportional Representation is the only way forward, that way every single vote counts.

Our system is totally archaic and no longer democratic.

Example, in the 2015 general election UKIP polled nearly four million votes and yet only got one MP.

 

Politics is an absolute minefield and something that didn't interest me at all until a few years ago, I was always one of the people that would say voting is a waste of time as they are all the same etc. But I now feel this isn't actually true and definitely think that it's everyone's duty to vote even if you spoil your vote, at least this way you are making your voice heard by saying that you don't agree with any of the options, you are at least showing that you care what happens to your own and your family's future.

I'd recommend that people take the 10 minutes to run through this useful quiz which will give a rough guide as to which party's policies most match your beliefs - https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz - you might be surprised at the outcome.

I will be voting but not for either of the two main parties.

 

Unfortunately Labour are returning to their old socialism ways, which doesn't work, there's not one country in the world where socialism has worked. Voting for Labour will return this country to the 70's if they should win the election, constant striking and poor manufacturing output, unions too powerful.

Corbyn is more concerned about the rights of EU immigrants than he is about British citizens and he has just appointed a former member of the Communist Party of Great Britain to be his Chief Election Campaigner, are these the sort of people you want to run the country?? They'll bring it to it's knees!!!!!

Out of all the party leaders I believe Teresa May is the only one capable of negotiating the best Brexit deal for the UK.

 

Politics is an absolute minefield and something that didn't interest me at all until a few years ago, I was always one of the people that would say voting is a waste of time as they are all the same etc. But I now feel this isn't actually true and definitely think that it's everyone's duty to vote even if you spoil your vote, at least this way you are making your voice heard by saying that you don't agree with any of the options, you are at least showing that you care what happens to your own and your family's future.

I'd recommend that people take the 10 minutes to run through this useful quiz which will give a rough guide as to which party's policies most match your beliefs - https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz - you might be surprised at the outcome.

I will be voting but not for either of the two main parties.

According to that, I support UKIP.

 

The main thing that bothers me is all the money being spent on all these different blooming elections and things to vote on. Killing the world one bit of paper at a time - Arghh!!!

 

The main thing that bothers me is all the money being spent on all these different blooming elections and things to vote on. Killing the world one bit of paper at a time - Arghh!!!

Exactly.

If things like gameshows etc can be voted on electronically when there is lots of money at stake for the winner...surely they're secure enough to warrant use for this sort of thing too.

 

According to that, I support UKIP.

Mine came out as 84% labour and 83% Lib Dem and very interstingly 72% Green!

One thing I would say to people on here is do some research and educate yourself prior to making a vote. I had people at work and in my local area who voted regarding Brexit last year and I asked them what they voted for and why. I enjoy having intellectual conversations and debates with people even with opposing views because if they have factual reasons for their choices then that's absolutely fine and you can debate about it. However, every single person I asked who voted either said

'Because my parents/family are voting Yes/No'

Or were just repeating the jargon used by the campaigns on TV. But they didn't know what they were voting for nor had their own personal view on it, just like a pack of sheep doing what everyone else is doing.

Do some research educate yourself and vote for the change you want to see in the country and not just follow blindly. This is why our country takes 1 step forward and 10 step backwards.

 

Politics is an absolute minefield and something that didn't interest me at all until a few years ago, I was always one of the people that would say voting is a waste of time as they are all the same etc. But I now feel this isn't actually true and definitely think that it's everyone's duty to vote even if you spoil your vote, at least this way you are making your voice heard by saying that you don't agree with any of the options, you are at least showing that you care what happens to your own and your family's future.

I'd recommend that people take the 10 minutes to run through this useful quiz which will give a rough guide as to which party's policies most match your beliefs - https://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz - you might be surprised at the outcome.

I will be voting but not for either of the two main parties.

According to this I side more towards the Tories and UKIP, which is true

 

Mine came out as 84% labour and 83% Lib Dem and very interstingly 72% Green!

One thing I would say to people on here is do some research and educate yourself prior to making a vote. I had people at work and in my local area who voted regarding Brexit last year and I asked them what they voted for and why. I enjoy having intellectual conversations and debates with people even with opposing views because if they have factual reasons for their choices then that's absolutely fine and you can debate about it. However, every single person I asked who voted either said

'Because my parents/family are voting Yes/No'

Or were just repeating the jargon used by the campaigns on TV. But they didn't know what they were voting for nor had their own personal view on it, just like a pack of sheep doing what everyone else is doing.

Do some research educate yourself and vote for the change you want to see in the country and not just follow blindly. This is why our country takes 1 step forward and 10 step backwards.

That is my biggest issue with it all. Not slating anyone in here before people kick off on one about being "branded" something or other...but there are too many uninformed, or worse yet ill-informed, people in the country who are voting. Those are the votes that are dangerous because they're being cast by people who haven't actually got a clue...yet are defining the future of the country.

 

That is my biggest issue with it all. Not slating anyone in here before people kick off on one about being "branded" something or other...but there are too many uninformed, or worse yet ill-informed, people in the country who are voting. Those are the votes that are dangerous because they're being cast by people who haven't actually got a clue...yet are defining the future of the country.

Or they are believing propaganda from the press or spin doctors. It's difficult to see through all the rubbish spouted sometimes, but a bit of homework can make all the difference.